IAGSDC 2012 Convention Proposals

[bjarvis]

Today, I received copies of the bids for the 2012 IAGSDC convention: it will be a choice between Phoenix and Vancouver.


Phoenix, August 30-September 3, 2012

• JW Marriott Desert Ridge Resort & Spa - single/double: $129/night, triple/quad: $149/night
  
• $20/day valet parking
  
• $125 early bird registrations (100), $150 at Chicago in 2011, $175 to 7/31/2011, $200 to 5/31/2012, $250 at the door ($95 for non-dancers to 5/31/2012, $115 thereafter)
  
• Budget break-even at 900 registrants

The Phoenix budget has the revenues about right (IMHO), but the expenses for the fun badge tour seem a little low at only $8k. Details are rather sparse so it's difficult to analyze much of the bid. They propose 9-15 callers in total


Vancouver, June 29-July 2, 2012

• Hyatt Regency Vancouver - single/double: $169/night, triple: $199/night, quad: $219/night (Westin Bayshore Hotel is the alternate hotel.)
  
• $125 early bird registrations (100), $150 at Chicago in 2011, $175 to 3/30/2012, $200 at the door ($95 for non-dancers to 5/31/2012, $115 thereafter)
  
• Budget break-even at 900 registrants

The Vancouver budget doesn't mention the fun badge tour but since it's typically close to revenue-neutral, they may have chosen to leave it out. As we've discovered for 2009, soaring diesel prices may also make it utterly incalculable so many years in advance so they may be wisely deferring such information lest they paint themselves into a corner. I also suspect the sound and flooring expenses are low-balled. At least 10 full-time callers are planned.


I'm planning to scan these proposals into PDF files for my records. If you'd like a copy, let me know.

Comments

[bjarvis.livejournal.com]

I have high expectations for DC's fbt.

Oh, good... that takes the pressure off. :-)

I have a fairly solid idea of the venues which will be used for the fun badge tour... I'm fairly confident folks will like them --and they're not going to be the same as our 1994 convention.

I'm not keen on the FBT concept in general these days... it's just too much effort to get out of bed at an ungodly hour of the morning. I've also never understood the secrecy aspect. Keeping the participants in suspense about where they're going bothers me to no end as both a past-participant and as an organizer: it offends my preference for operational transparency and takes a huge amount of effort for no discernable benefit. Good thing someone else is in charge of that... :-)

[billeyler.livejournal.com]

Yes, I agree about that secrecy thing. I'd rather know where I was going than not! I'm pretty sure in '86 we all knew where the stops were going to be at the 1st FBT.

There were some friendships nearly undone in '05 in the El Camino Reelers from what I heard about the utter secrecy of the FBT...I don't know if they've recovered from that even yet.

[allanh.livejournal.com]

Most of us are talking to each other now.

[airporter.livejournal.com]

Barely.

FBT

[cuyahogarvr.livejournal.com]

I'm with you on the secrecy thing too. Even as a past resident of Cleveland, I'm NOT planning on going on the FBT because "it's a secret."
Too many things are "secret".