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bjarvis ([personal profile] bjarvis) wrote2011-05-02 09:25 am
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Ambivalent

I'm feeling a bit ambivalent about the assassination of Osama bin Laden.

He was a vile human being; I have no problem with justifying his death.

That said, I feel no happiness in it either. Killing this one person won't end the wars, won't bring back the several thousand people he had killed, won't rebuild the towers and won't restore our treasuries. Killing bin Laden was like euthanizing a rabid wolf: it's a thing one must do for the sake of the greater community.

I'm also concerned. Making a martyr of him may bring a whole new level of escalation in terrorism, at least in the short term. Perhaps the heart has been torn out of al Qaeda, or perhaps we've spent all this time & energy tracking down one person when another person(s) is standing by to take his place and rebuilt the organization. If so, we're no further ahead.

And I'm saddened by our own failures in the West. In so many ways, bin Laden already won: he demonstrated we were more vulnerable than we thought, he made us gut our own constitutions and abandon our own rights & freedoms, he got us to bankrupt our governments and he turned us on ourselves, fearing our own shadows, accusing our next door neighbors of sedition for not being white anglo christians and wasting our time & resources on wild goose chases. I'm sure we can't --or won't-- change back to what we were now that he's dead.

And now what? Now that bin Laden is dead, what will this do to the military operations in Afghanistan? How will this affect our relations with the middle east? Will this have a lasting impact on our relations with the muslim world?

[identity profile] bootedintexas.livejournal.com 2011-05-02 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
well written...NPR even had problems reporting on it without saying "well, now what?"...Al Qaida is much different than say Vietnam or Japan in that, this isn't a people we are fighting...it is a mindset in many countries with many bases of operation. Even with the discovery of Bin Laden and his death, sadly the powers that be both demo and repub will find reasons to put american young in harms way in the name of freedom,,,whether we should even be there in the first place.

[identity profile] pklexton.livejournal.com 2011-05-02 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You pretty much summed up my thoughts. I have no problems with him being killed, but I'm not going to celebrate it. It's something that needed to be done. That's all.

[identity profile] brunorepublic.livejournal.com 2011-05-02 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
In so many ways, bin Laden already won: he demonstrated we were more vulnerable than we thought, he made us gut our own constitutions and abandon our own rights & freedoms, he got us to bankrupt our governments and he turned us on ourselves, fearing our own shadows, accusing our next door neighbors of sedition for not being white anglo christians and wasting our time & resources on wild goose chases.

Exactly. He'd already stated that his goal was not to destroy the west with armed conflict, but to bankrupt it.

[identity profile] cpj.livejournal.com 2011-05-03 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
And for that reason more than anything else, I'm glad he's dead. Why should the fucker live to enjoy the displeasure he brought us?

[identity profile] weekilter.livejournal.com 2011-05-02 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as making a martyr out of Bin Laden I believe that's the reason he was given a burial at sea so his followers couldn't worship at the grave of a terrorist.

As far as our failures we've had plenty. We've had many many situations where our actions have come back to bite us in the ass. This happens over and over and yet we never learn from it.

Most recently we found out that our support of a tyrant in Egypt came to no good.

Our support of Afghanistan just to route the Soviets only to have those forces come back at us when they decided that we are no good for them.

[identity profile] cpj.livejournal.com 2011-05-03 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't sound like he was assassinated. It sounds like he was killed in an attempt to capture him.

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/02/135926537/new-details-emerge-about-killing-of-bin-laden